Give the information to eBay. Image by Jo Zixuan Zhou © The Balance 2020. must be added to it. What's a fake coin in this case:  counterfeit, altered, silver/gold coated? Because he offering them at around a Dollar and a Half each, the primary source can be none other than Alibaba Express ... so, he can't lie to deny that he knows that they're fakes. age is a measure of time , wisdom is the measure of how we used that time. Copyright © 1995-2021 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. I want Ebay to ad to every coin listing, “BUYER BEWARE, before you buy any coin, do your due diligence on it!!!! | Free shipping on many items! I was at the flea market when I saw a guy grabbing a bunch of Amerian silver $1 coins. Ebay will not be responsible for any purchase, after 30 days”. I am a Collector-turned-Dealer. EBay doesn't "encourage" the sale of fake coins. Ebay is flooded with fakes lately. There is a problem when these get into the U.S. and are sold again. If they tell you that it is fake, try to get that in writing. The Hobby Protection Act of 1973 prohibits the sale of imitation coins without the word “COPY” inscribed somewhere on the piece. 3-4 months ago I saw Mexican silver coins selling at $3 each. Prosecutions needed for selling counterfeit coins currency eBay! I have just got off the phone with a supervisor at eBay about fake coins and misrepresented coins!!!! For this reason, eBay has policies that allow pretty much any buyer to force a refund for pretty much any item for a defined period of time, and allows the buyer a defined period of time to leave feedback. 465onanongstore. ", Ebay !!! It’s against eBay policy to sell fake coins unless they are advertised as replicas, copies, or otherwise. Low feedback but already fakes) If you have a positive reputation with a high number of ratings, people will be more likely to buy from you. I can assure you that truthfulness, hard work and a friendly smile ... go far. I rushed to buy 8 of them, came to Ebay and read an article about how the Chinese are floading the market (and flea markets) with these coins. Seller Uses Incorrect Name. Refuses to refund my money or even reply to my emails. If your buying for silver or gold then do a few sample tests when you get them. He has sold over $100000.00  in fake coins and he gets away with it how???? "If it sounds too good to be true, it is"   "There is a sucker born every minute"   "Caveat Emptor"  "There is no such thing as a free lunch"    "Luck favors the prepared"    "Fools rush in where angels fear to tread"       "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride"  etc., etc. On account "*****.us2013" is selling fake and uncertificated coins. I just bought a fake 1915-S Pan Pacific commemortive coin on ebay. Chinese. If you are buying silver coins or bars on ebay or craigslist, there is a higher probability that you will encounter a fake. Fools selling silver and gold are pretty rare these days. She was selling gold plated chains for $10 each. Denant. Watch out for ebay.ph sellers: conception_2010, gantalao2010 & urich8211. Counterfeit goods are not allowed on eBay. Grimstonian. | Browse our daily deals for even more savings! No, the person who posted that is another user like yourself, not from eBay. I'm not "buying culls" on eBay, nor am I buying any other coins of any sort on eBay. Matt finish & pitted serface with black marks. Replica currency that follows our rules can be listed on eBay, but replica coins and counterfeit currency are not allowed. _________________________________________________________, "Those who enter the arena unarmed or unprepared are quickly dispatched. The buyers must like what he is selling. No one under the age of 18 is supposed to be using eBay, except under adult supervision. Years ago, before eBay, the son of a local coin dealer I knew was arrested for selling fakes. The international connection is news to me. Several times I have purchased silver bars, only to find that it is just silver plate. Now, I can't even change my Feedback to negative because of the time lapse. One quick example EBay 271712119776 real deal ..191447735175 fake .Coins both look the same.The seller says it is silver plated but the coin has no copy or plated on it just. on't or can't put his name to it,  then get his name and other pertainent contact information. Hi While I am still allowed to buy, I noticed that eBay does nothing on many fake coins sellers who are selling bundles of fake american coins direclty via eBay and I am worried that these sellers will flood american land with fakes and fakes where it will get hard to figure out what is right or wrong. 2rooks. So buy a bad coin, the seller gets paid, eBay gets their money and after 30 days you’re stuck with whatever you bought!!!! If you have evidence, such as a fake coin you have bought from this individual, you need to go to the Police or a governmental consumer protection agency and lay the evidence before them. The CWC reduced the number of cases of fraud to under 6%. Were willing to eat the 250.00 coin but we want to make sure its reported has negative feed back. Share best practices, tips, and insights. planete-collections-france (2017, May. This frauds must be exposed and the unsuspecting buyers warned! .999 silver.To bad for the next sucker,This is so wrong.. If you see a fake coin on ebay, ricardo or yahoo auctions, write to the seller. Items that bear a company's official brand name or logo can be listed, as long as the products were lawfully made by, for, or with the consent of that company. $50k fine and 10 years of contemplation. Our List of Fake Ancient Coins Sellers on Ebay: 12cartagena. ... if so the you as the seller could be held responsible for selling fake goods .-----63.74% of statistics are made up Report Inappropriate Content. But they must notify all buyers, before the buy, to do their due diligence!!!! As far as coins go, SO MANY COINS SOLD ARE NOT AS REPRESENTED IN THE LISTING!!!!! This scam is particularly frustrating for us upstanding citizens. Ask for a full refund, plus your shipping cost. When it comes to real gold and silver there is no such thing as a bargain price. Quite a few of them are misrepresented, innocently or intentionally. You are buying culls. Ebay may have been duped by its own rules which only allow sellers to leave positive ratings for buyers in case, as it admits, criticism puts the latter off future spending. But "We are just a venue" has worked for eBay for 22 years. "I am worried that these sellers will flood american land with fakes and fakes...". I want Ebay to ad to every coin listing, “BUYER BEWARE, before you buy any coin, do your due diligence on it!!!! No one else had meaningfully challenged eBay in all that time. Bought a bad coin years back and negative reporting was such a pain we gave up.. anyone know how report a negative feed back on a counterfeit coin without the refund **bleep**? Have to admit I was unaware of this. Because Seller had a 100% rating, I thought I was buying from a reputable person. If you could tell us the name of the ebay dealers who sell fake coins, it will be a great help for all those buyer who are new to this coin collection hobby like me. Some grade their own coins at ms70 that won't meet uncirculated. I am collecting and researching ancient coins since 1990 I would like to reiterate our position on this issue and emphasize that this really is a situation of buyer beware. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. I doubt that eBay is going to change its policies on returns or feedback simply because the NGC has a backlog. User ID  ipk67 sells fake counterfeit gold coins. There is no check to make sure the seller has morals or that his merchandise it legitimate. I have always gotten my money back on these. Weve never seen anything like this in over 40k in purchases on ebay since 2012. Ebay must let everyone aware of this before they buy any coin!!!! And given the reports here of buyers mis-using the dispute system and using feedback to extort concessions from sellers, I doubt you will find much support on a seller board for giving buyers even more protection and even more tools to damage a seller's rating. Only a fool sells for less than the scrap value. So, eBay has no reason to change its business model. As you may know, NGC has a big backlog of coins to be certified, and it took 2 moths in my case. These are really good knockoffs and will even fool the best - sometimes you can find a slight difference in MM or the dates also. Tell eBay that a Precious Metals Buyer stated it was fake, then ask for a full refund of the purchase price, your shipping cost and the cost of returning it to him. The price was at $18 each. Be polite, but be certain that everything that you state is the truth. Sometimes they do and sometimes they dont. Always check the company producing the slab . We don't allow counterfeit items or unauthorized copies to be listed on eBay. If the buyer of precious metals won't or can't put his name to it,  then get his name and other pertainent contact information. Neither can eBay, even if it wanted to. 3) if item is fake, paypal has no process to get refund as they just go by item received or not received.. so bottom line ebay is not good for coins , atleast I guess and hence I decided to not sell as its a platform for ametures or fake sellers or certified coins sellers. The only requirements for becoming an eBay seller are a pulse, a credit card, and a computer. Sure, the fellow who cheats, initially is Money Ahead, but the qualifyer "Only for a short time!" How do i handle this. Millions of items are listed each day, and while eBay takes active measures to protect buyers, fake stuff still manages to make it through. I wrote about that in Coin World. Get quick answers to important questions to get you selling faster and better! Check out the bidding war that went on for a fake horse coin... 100% feedback the seller has too... SilverTounge15, Apr 21, 2015 #27. silverbullion New Member. Skimming and acid washing on M Barr. Copyright © 1995-2021 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. Paypal gives 180 days...six months..to file an item not as described case..and buyers always win. Buyer Beware Counterfeit Coins The availability of counterfeit and 'look-a-like' Perth Mint coins on popular auction sites is a familiar topic of discussion on the internet. smartarse on 09/08/2017 - 06:11 Last edited 09/08/2017 - 10:30 by 1 other user. You think that you can trust someone with over 200 positive feedbacks selling gold on ebay but think again. Be polite, but be certain that everything that you state is the truth. Regards. These guys are selling fake dos mondos and counterstamp coins. li-susie View Listings. User ID  ipk67 sells counterfeit fake gold coins, eBay Prosecutions needed for selling counterfeit coins & currency. @hndyman4hire  You might want to start a new thread, this one is pretty old. Replica coins and currency policy | eBay 555481099264 e0f769c7-8255-4e8b-aa2b-9abdac6dd732:17666c77343 19997 ebay should not let these coins be sold. If eBay still won't do anything about it, then buy one coin from the cheat, then if he is true-to-form and sends to you a counterfiet, report to eBay that is was not as described:  Not Silver / Not an Antique / and coninsedently not a Coin! EBay is enabling this fraud by not allowing me to warn other buyers via revised Feedback. They are fake but are labeled as .999 Ag. If coin collectors would follow these five simple steps, not only would they not get saddled with fakes, they'd help put the counterfeiters out of business! Yet, you can spot dozens on eBay, especially California Gold. He shouldn't be allowed to knowingly sell copies. eBay is one of the largest platforms for online sales of coins. Unfortunately, thousands of fake coins are sold every month on eBay. Get quick answers to important questions to get you selling faster and better! Report Inappropriate Content. As far as I was known, there are two British coin collectors experienced his illegal trading. Once you have your refund, or he is booted off of eBay, you are free to give him a Negative and state very carefully that he had been previously reported ... it that is true. I just bought a fake 1915-S Pan Pacific commemortive coin on ebay. CYA, return it First Class Package with Free Tracking. At a flea market in my area this summer, a Chinese lady was selling junk jewelry. I jumped to buy them but then I realized they were cheap for a reason. His eBay account "****3353" is cheating other collectors' coins and claims for the refund. There are many millions of eBay listings. All the coin pics are … A very common cast fake that has been around for decades and is now cropping up on eBay : #FC53667: Potosí, Bolivia, 8 reales ROYAL, 1734E: Note that this appears to be cast from a genuine coin that was offered on eBay in late 2005, but I know that that coin was … If the shipped item was sold for under $750, delivery notification is adequate proof. Then they buy gemstones from Indian sellers and found out they are dyed or mislabeled or ugly,what are they thinking?they want that pigeon egg ruby stone on some Maharaja turban for 34.95? Lost $144 right and then. There are fake coins sold on eBay, so buyers often hesitate when dealing with new accounts. Finally, some genuine, cheated coins and certificated coins are selling on "2007****". Hopefully others will do the same. One sale a day, tomorrow the entire Galaxy! EBay does not have the right to convict sellers of criminal offences and remove their livelihoods. If the item is sold for more than $750 the item must have signature delivery proof. (You will have to "join" to see it but you can easily check a box to not to get any communications if you don't want them.) I saw some from the 1800's, very early ones or what I thought expensive ones. Gold is gold,no one sells for less but somehow some US buyers think gold coming from China LIKE everything else should be cheaper !@. Not only is thread years old, but why are you replying to me? Please pass this so eBay do something or else we are in situation, most of sellers I see sell with title called maio silver coins. | Browse our daily deals for even more savings! Check the seller's name against the regularly updated Fake Sellers list on Forum Ancient Coins. Fake Coins have been an issue here forever. 518 likes. In 2013 the Coin Watch Committee (CWC) terminated thousands of ID names for fraud involving numismatic forgeries of this type. 2015_situk. Updated July 17, 2019. 2. Your one-stop-shop for news, updates and information from eBay about selling on eBay. Message 2 of 4 (899 Views) Reply. Buy from reliable sellers, pay the prices reliable sellers must charge, and be happy. They were clearly marked 14k. Their policy is that the seller is responsible for accuracy of the listing, and the buyer can use eBay's money back guarantee if an item isn't as described. If the eBay dealer is new, you will want to "search" for that username on the list to see if a more-recent message mentions fake items from that … I usually ignore all auctions from China for this and other reasons. Fake Ancient Coins Sellers on Ebay. i would only buy from somebody with the confidence boosting word 'real' in his id. Give the information to eBay. Selling counterfeit coins on eBay is strictly against eBay policy and will get you banned from ever selling on eBay again. He knows that he is doing wrong, but because there has been no punishment forth-coming, and seeminmgly eBay is permiting him to do as he does, he'll contine to lie to and to cheat people ot of their money. actually I decided to not sell on eBay but on other reputed websites as with lot of real coins sellers, some fake coin sellers decide coin price on eBay and thus average price for good coins on eBay is lot less when compared to other sites like HA.com, I still buy on eBay , with idea to find fake sellers, and have partnered with local agencies and reputed 3rd party authotication agencies, who work for free with me, and if we find any fake coin seller, we go all the way to den of that fake seller , to get him or her, 1) if buyer files claim after receipt then paypal does nothing, 2) if seller sold genuine and buyer gave address that shows item not received than also seller gets duped as now paypal will post refund. Buy From Reputable Dealers. In fact, some bloggers routinely post about fakes being sold on eBay. Reputable Seller Selling Fake Gold Coins on eBay. Maio,or Tibet silver is Duping buyers world wide...Be Cautious of "worth collecting ". They cant and shouldnt suspend sellers if just one person says fake, but they should suspend sellers that have many complaints of fakes. Nonetheless, the site is saturated with imitation merchandise. Subsection 3 would apply to anyone buying a fake from eBay and then passing it off as real currency. Unauthorized copies may include items that are bootlegged, illegally duplicated, or pirated. However, you, or anyone, can buy one coin from him, then go to a buyer of precious metals, and offer it to them. Share best practices, tips, and insights. yOU CANT JUST BLAME THE SELLERS,there are the buyers who want something for nothing. In order for it to work, sellers must provide proof of item delivery. Get the best deal for World Gold Coins from the largest online selection at eBay.com. Keep in mind that eBay can't and won't attempt to investigate individual listings itself. Give support, share information, and connect with fellow members. I know Ebay cannot go thru every listing and make sure it is being sold honestly. Drill a hole its cheaper than getting scamed. Ask the seller if it is genuine and whether he offers a refund if it turns out to be a fake Check the coin against reliable websites. Please do not be tempte eBay should be now called china ebay as almost everything that sold genuines, you can see fake sold by someone with fake address. In the end it is up to the buyer to be knowledgeable about what they are buying and to fully understand how ebay buyer protection works. Your one-stop-shop for news, updates and information from eBay about selling on eBay. so bottom line ebay is not good for coins , atleast I guess and hence I decided to not sell as its a platform for ametures or fake sellers or certified coins sellers. 0 Kudos Highlighted. If ever a seller is ever asked to return money because they are thought to be selling fake coins or jewelry...Please suspend selling privileges!!! No adult needs to be told to be careful when shopping and buying, here and everywhere else. Once you have your refund, or he is booted off of eBay, you are free to give him a Negative and state very carefully that he had been previously reported ... it that is true. After 30 days, eBay takes no responsibility about anything you buy. Check this out on line in a search. How about 1.5 billion current listings on Ebay? Silver and gold bullion -  same way,  test it when you get it to be sure. Meet other eBay community members who share your passions. EBay does not care. Not a regular ancient coin seller, but given the chance he did not remove a cast fake sestertius) platon12345 (German eBay) pontios51 Poseidon2103 pr.daly praetoriangoddess1 (bids on taherthecat coins and yields him lots of positive feedback in an incestuous manner) prefrdric0 (2020, April. I should not be surprised that it occurs on eBay. Auto-suggest helps you quickly narrow down your search results by suggesting possible matches as you type. 8. Silver?? His only source to sell at those low prices is Alibaba Express, and they make it clear to their buyers that those are copies. PayPal Seller Protection exists to help sellers trade confidently on eBay. Get the best deal for Canadian 50 Cent Coin from the largest online selection at eBay.com. Some items are simply not a good fit for the eBay venue, and IMHO buyers need to take a little personal responsibility for the buying decisions they make. If eBay still won't do anything about it, then buy one coin from the cheat, then if he is true-to-form and sends to you a counterfiet, report to eBay that is was not as described:  Not Silver / Not an Antique / and coninsedently not a Coin! A seller sold me a fake Tiberius gold coin for $2100, confirmed as not genuine by Numismatic Guaranty Corporation. I can’t single handedly stop the sale of fake coins on eBay, but I can educate potential buyers who will listen, and not bid on counterfeit coins. All the coin pics are gone except one and looking threw sold listings we cant find it. EBay sellers—One More Scam To Watch Out For ... has the experience of being fooled by altered and counterfeit coins. But they must notify all buyers, before the buy, to do their due diligence!!!! because ebay profits on every item...real or fake. Any list of known sellers tends to be outdated since the most professional of fake sellers just … Everyone buying a coin must be aware of this and Ebay must notify all sellers, that they must be careful and know what they are buying!!! Ebay should not allow sellers to appear as if they are a UK seller. You will always want to combine this with the magnetic slide and dimensions test. Buy one from the cheater, then offer it to a Precious Metals Buyer. eBay should be now called china ebay as almost everything that sold genuines, you can see fake sold by someone with fake address You can ask about particular items and receive frequent updates about fakes and fake sellers. On the other hand, you can find goods coins at good prices, but on the other, eBay is notoriously lax on sellers of fakes. It looks has though the seller tried deleting the listing right after the sell. China is making some pretty good knockoffs,  about only way I can tell is by weight, they will be about a gram off what they should be on silver dollars (which isn't much). That Horse left the Barn a long time ago. | Free shipping on many items! Fakes are not a new phenomenon, they have been around for years and years, and will continue to be around as long as there are gullible gormless people who believe the hyperbole spewed by those selling them. hence why paypal has gone to 180 days for a claim. Ask for a full refund, plus your shipping cost. They have bubbles on them if you see them through a microscope. I did, bubbles everywhere. papso22 View … Tell him promptly that you doubt its authenticity. How is ebay letting this seller well fake coins??? The amount of misrepresentation is enormous!!!!! Message 2 of 33 (1,312 Views) 1 Highlighted. If your buying coins,  buy graded ones, and then check their number with the grading company as well. *edit* just copy/paste that into the bidding/buying board, might get a better response, {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}. Caveat: While the ping test is a great method to check for fake silver bars or coins, it is not foolproof. I prayed to God he let them go, he did! Is obvious. As others have echoed, eBay is sort of a double-edged sword. Loruca I suspect that eBay is still following the policy of not terminating seller IDs even for posting multiple fakes. Meet other eBay community members who share your passions. 01 of 05 Can you suggest a better alternative? If a buyer cannot determine whether an item is "as described" within that timeframe, he can either choose to accept the risk or choose not to buy the item. You cannot police them. If you intend to buy ancient coins you should join it. 2015bgevang... 2015himmi. Of course buyer beware but ebay should not give these frauds access to their market. {"modules":["unloadOptimization","bandwidthDetection"],"unloadOptimization":{"browsers":{"Firefox":true,"Chrome":true}},"bandwidthDetection":{"url":"https://ir.ebaystatic.com/cr/v/c1/thirtysevens.jpg","maxViews":4,"imgSize":37,"expiry":300000,"timeout":250}}. Portals like Proxibid and eBay have service terms that prevent the selling of fakes. It looks has though the seller tried deleting the listing right after the sell. Give support, share information, and connect with fellow members. ", Acid washed coins are obvious. & currency issue and emphasize that this really is a higher probability that you can ask about particular and... 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